Steroids Vs. Natural Bodybuilding – Mike O’Hearn Addresses Viral Interview With KENNY KO

The 11th episode of The Mike O’Hearn Show present Generation Iron launched with a bang. The episode’s cold open was a montage of people saying various things to the effect that O’Hearn didn’t want to admit he wasn’t a natural bodybuilder and was taking anabolic steroids for bodybuilding. help achieve his lean muscular physique.

The series of commentators speculating on whether or not O’Hearn is on steroids stems from a presumably off-the-cuff interview he did during an appearance at Iris Kyle’s Powerhouse Gym in Las Vegas, NV. The interviewer, KENNY KO, asked O’Hearn if he was taking TRT (testosterone replacement therapy), and although O’Hearn didn’t answer directly, he said, “What would be the ‘interest ?” The two questioned whether or not science suggests that testosterone levels decline as people age.

Check out O’Hearn’s discussion of that interview with Vlad Yudin in the video below, courtesy of Generation Ironthe YouTube channel of. But first, for context, here’s O’Hearn’s interview with KO:

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In the interview, O’Hearn lambasted KO for telling his 610,000 YouTube subscribers information that O’Hearn didn’t believe was true. Before explaining her stance, O’Hearn called out Figure competitor Mona Muresan, 46, to show off her abs and compare them to knockouts. Muresan’s revelation about the ab was how O’Hearn attempted to refute the narrative he sees being circulated in the fitness industry regarding aging and the physical derailment that supposedly comes with it.

You say, “No matter what, you’re destroyed by 40.” That’s the idea being pushed, isn’t it?

KO agreed with O’Hearn’s assessment. O’Hearn then assumed the position that at age 15, O’Hearn was stronger than knockout ever was. While O’Hearn seemed combative, O’Hearn and KO made it clear that they had mutual respect.

KO reiterated his question whether O’Hearn was a natural bodybuilder or not. O’Hearn did not say “yes” or “no”.

How could I compete throughout my career – doing drug tests – and doing TV shows…tested for drugs…”

It was unclear where or why O’Hearn interpreted the question through the prism of force. He again asked KO about her strength compared to a female bodybuilder in her 40s. KO seemed content to concede that he is not “a strong individual”, noting that “the equipment does not work for him”. “Gear” is another way of saying steroids.

Eventually, O’Hearn found a more focused point: He wants those who enjoy knocking out large audiences not pedaling on the idea that to acquire an elite physique like O’Hearn’s, you have to take medications like TRT or other steroids. KO clarifies that he thinks his message supports the promotion of a drug-free physique. For reference, KO previously admitted to using steroids in a video posted to his YouTube in 2017.

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KO supported the influence of genetics on physique and how one reacts to steroids. O’Hearn seemed to push back against that idea, suggesting that a committed lifestyle of hard work in the gym ultimately leads to success. While there may have been room to agree that genetics and a committed lifestyle of hard work in the gym have important roles in strength and aesthetics, they haven’t found it.

I will never be the guy who says, “I have genetics.”

O’Hearn hoped people who watched the video would give their thoughts on it. The video has received almost 165,000 views at the time of this article’s publication. KO’s pinned comment on the video read, “I’ll let Mike’s body language and avoidance of questions do the work,” in response to “comments from upset people. [KO] didn’t “put more pressure” on Mike.

O’Hearn responds to the knockout video and gives his reaction to it going viral in the video below:

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Following the cold open, episode 11 of The Mike O’Hearn The show opened with O’Hearn expressing his understanding that KO intends to get views on his videos because that’s how he makes a living as a “tabloid YouTuber”.

Their fanbase is guys who want an apology.

O’Hearn gave ground to the notion of knockouts that genetics have a significant influence, telling Yudin, “everyone at the highest level has some kind of genetics.” Yudin thought engaging with KO fueled the tabloids, which he considered “a waste of time”. Yudin’s suggestion changed O’Hearn’s position moments before.

I was mistaken. Is it a waste of time? It’s really because they’ve already made up their minds.

O’Hearn had B-roll one of his recent workout videos and one from a session of him in the 90s to compare which version of himself Yudin thought was stronger. O’Hearn intended to prove that his strength remained stable for decades, although his muscle density visibly improved.

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O’Hearn seemed to hope that KO and similar platforms would share the pros and cons of using steroids and the health implications they might have. He ended episode 11 to further address the question of “was it a waste of time” to engage with KO. O’Hearn returned to his original position which he was not.

O’Hearn urged those in the fitness industry who “talk about the other side of bodybuilding — the chemical part of it” to speak up. Although he didn’t name anyone in particular, he thinks they need to do “justice” to what good nutrition and training can do without using steroids.

Featured Image: @kennykoooo on Instagram

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